FC 2011-01-06 transcript
From Pirate Party of Canada
[22:07] <~MikkelPaulson> well, I'll call the meeting to order first [22:07] <~MikkelPaulson> we need to step things up again [22:08] <~MikkelPaulson> Nuitari: I understand that with your new responsibilities as a daddy you'll probably have less time to devote to the party stuff [22:08] <~MikkelPaulson> I've got no problem with that; just let us know if there's anything you can't handle [22:09] <+Zblewski> With new directors coming [22:09] <~MikkelPaulson> and happily the timing is pretty good seeing as the members of our Federal Council will be doubled pretty soon [22:09] <~MikkelPaulson> yeah [22:10] <~MikkelPaulson> sounds like a good segue into the guest members of the Council [22:11] <~MikkelPaulson> Zblewski: it was your idea, want to take it away? [22:11] <+Zblewski> Sure. [22:11] <+Zblewski> Basically, during the campaign period, it's my hope that we can have all candidates take part in these meetings, participating in a non-voting capaciry [22:12] <+Zblewski> *capacity [22:12] <+Zblewski> It will be optimal to have two in at a time. [22:12] <+Zblewski> That way we can better reflect a "full" meeting. [22:12] <~MikkelPaulson> and find out firsthand how they'll perform with the existing Council [22:13] <+Zblewski> Exactly. [22:13] <+Zblewski> People are still welcome to watch these meetings. [22:13] <~MikkelPaulson> speaking of which, I never tweeted about this [22:13] <+Zblewski> Questions? [22:14] <~MikkelPaulson> I like it [22:14] <~MikkelPaulson> I think Sean should handle figuring out pairing and timing [22:14] <~MikkelPaulson> and we probably shouldn't start until the close of nominations, which are going to be extended until the 15th [22:15] <+Zblewski> 14th [22:16] <~MikkelPaulson> 14th? [22:16] <~MikkelPaulson> okay [22:16] <+Zblewski> And shouldn't run during voting [22:16] <~MikkelPaulson> no [22:16] <~MikkelPaulson> so during the 3-week campaigning period [22:16] <~MikkelPaulson> which gives us 3 Council meetings [22:16] <~MikkelPaulson> I'm assuming we'll get one or two more candidates once the email goes out [22:17] <~MikkelPaulson> which is all written, but I haven't had any responses from the translators [22:17] <~MikkelPaulson> and speaking of things [22:17] <~MikkelPaulson> uh, wrong clipboard [22:17] <~MikkelPaulson> sorry [22:17] <~MikkelPaulson> http://pr.piratepad.ca/46 [22:19] <+Zblewski> We're not translators >.> [22:19] <~MikkelPaulson> nah, I'll give Dan a call though [22:19] <~MikkelPaulson> Nuitari: what's the status on donations? [22:23] <+Nuitari> give me 10 minutes [22:24] <~MikkelPaulson> okay [22:24] <~MikkelPaulson> in the meantime, Zblewski, want to fill us in on the status of things in Ottawa, for the record? [22:24] <~MikkelPaulson> or just sit quietly [22:25] <+Zblewski> So, the three of us (Shawn, Sam and I) met, and agreed to get an event going [22:25] <+Zblewski> And it was agreed that we can screen an informative film and do other small things on a given night [22:25] <+Zblewski> We have set a date of March 2nd [22:26] <~MikkelPaulson> Steal This Film? [22:26] <+Zblewski> That's one possibility, but Shawn saw another called "All Creative Work is Derivative" [22:27] <+Zblewski> it's apparently short and amazing [22:27] <~MikkelPaulson> hm, sounds cool [22:27] <~MikkelPaulson> I'll have to look it up [22:27] <+Zblewski> But we will look into making something short on behalf of the PPCA [22:27] <+Zblewski> (it's on YouTube) [22:27] <+Zblewski> Anyways [22:28] <+Zblewski> Sam's looking for a venue [22:28] <~MikkelPaulson> as we grow, we should work on producing some material just for the purpose of contributing to the commons [22:28] <~MikkelPaulson> of course with our logo attached [22:28] <~MikkelPaulson> walk the walk, as it were [22:28] <~MikkelPaulson> mini-documentaries on platform-relevant topics could be good [22:28] <+Zblewski> Shawn's taking care of equipment and film [22:29] <+Zblewski> I'm going to look at advertisement (as well as getting quotes for PPCA's national ad plans [22:29] <+Zblewski> ) [22:30] <~MikkelPaulson> good stuff [22:30] <~MikkelPaulson> posters are always great [22:30] <+Zblewski> We have a goal [22:30] <+Zblewski> of an even bigger event [22:31] <+Zblewski> with guest spaeakers and such [22:31] <+Zblewski> but this is the start [22:31] <~MikkelPaulson> you bet [22:31] <~MikkelPaulson> better to start small and grow than to have a large underattended event [22:32] <~MikkelPaulson> and that brings us remarkably smoothly into the subject of the WikiLeaks rallies [22:33] <~MikkelPaulson> I'm going to get some flyers printed up and hand them out on campuses next week [22:33] <~MikkelPaulson> and we have a planning meeting here on Sunday [22:33] <~MikkelPaulson> I'm not sure how many people we'll actually be able to persuade to make the trip to Calgary [22:34] <+Zblewski> Good to hear [22:34] <~MikkelPaulson> a 3-hour drive [22:34] <+Nuitari> and I'm here [22:34] <~MikkelPaulson> but hopefully we'll be able to get a few extra attendees that way [22:34] <~MikkelPaulson> I'm going to try to arrange carpooling [22:34] <+Nuitari> the mass mirror pages for WL aren't working :/ [22:35] <+Zblewski> Rintaran has brought it to my attention that there's a PPI-WL committee meeting on Saturday [22:35] <~MikkelPaulson> hm [22:35] <+Nuitari> might be good to ask them how we can get a mirror [22:35] <~MikkelPaulson> would you be available to attend? I'm a bit booked up on Saturday [22:36] <+Nuitari> donation wise, we have received 750$ this month, in 3 donations [22:36] <~MikkelPaulson> fantastic! [22:36] <+Zblewski> Woot. [22:36] <~MikkelPaulson> I think we had another sizeable one on the 31st [22:36] <+Nuitari> I'm withdrawing some of the moneys to the bank account / prepaid credit card [22:36] <+Zblewski> As for the WL meeting, sure, I'll attend [22:36] <+Nuitari> the 100$ from scshunt cleared on the first [22:37] <+Nuitari> the biggest is 400$, then 250$, then 100$ [22:37] <~MikkelPaulson> the newsletter mentions that we have flags available [22:37] <~MikkelPaulson> so hopefully once that goes out we'll entice more prospective donors [22:38] <~MikkelPaulson> I know you've got a lot on your plate, but could you please see about getting the membership renewal/info management system up very very soon? [22:38] <~MikkelPaulson> that's another $5000 in annual revenue that we're missing [22:39] <+Nuitari> ok [22:40] <~MikkelPaulson> and one final financial point: I know it's somewhat impractical, but I'd really like to get SOME sort of budget document to the members on the 19th [22:40] <~MikkelPaulson> is that at all possible? [22:41] <+Nuitari> well, we have 0 idea of how we'll be spending the money in the future... [22:41] <+Zblewski> Well [22:41] <+Zblewski> let's look at what's going on here [22:41] <~MikkelPaulson> http://pr.piratepad.ca/44 [22:41] <+Nuitari> there may or may not be an election [22:42] <~MikkelPaulson> well, all parties are in the same boat there [22:42] <~MikkelPaulson> what we can say is that roughly x% of our finances are going to our warchest, and once the writ drops, we'll distribute the funds in that warchest as follows: x y z [22:44] <+Nuitari> let me check how much we have [22:44] <+Nuitari> also any news from Jeff Coleman about extra funds he might have? [22:45] <+Zblewski> Not that I've heard [22:45] <+Nuitari> he's not replying to my emails, I'll have to call him [22:45] <+Zblewski> I've been callling him [22:45] <+Zblewski> no answer [22:46] <+Zblewski> You can try if you wish [22:46] <+Nuitari> we stand at about 2862$ [22:46] <+Zblewski> Good start [22:46] <~MikkelPaulson> as far as I know, he didn't receive any contributions, and spent about $200 in total [22:49] <+Nuitari> sent him 300$ [22:49] <~MikkelPaulson> okay [22:49] <~MikkelPaulson> so he has a bit left over [22:50] <+Nuitari> yeah [22:50] <~MikkelPaulson> https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AmoCkss26aopdFRsdHJGMWRhaC1oSjhnUlo3UFNhRXc&hl=en#gid=0 [22:50] <~MikkelPaulson> so he has $218 left [22:54] <+Zblewski> Well [22:55] <+Zblewski> This'll be quite speculative [22:55] <~MikkelPaulson> absolutely [22:55] <~MikkelPaulson> it'd be nice to have a more concrete document [22:55] <+Zblewski> We can do our overhead right now [22:55] <~MikkelPaulson> but I do think we should have something for the members to approve [22:56] <+Zblewski> WL server [22:56] <+Zblewski> Gov costs [22:56] <+Nuitari> domain registration and dns hosting is 35$/year with easydns [22:56] <+Zblewski> And if we can get a quote for TM reg. [22:56] <+Nuitari> the server is about 72$ with tax [22:56] <+Nuitari> per month [22:56] <+Nuitari> there is about 50$ in govt fees we'll have to pay [22:56] <+Nuitari> and (I think) around 200$ for the mailbox [22:58] <+Zblewski> How about the hotline number?> [22:58] <~MikkelPaulson> and is caller ID spoofing still set up for calls routed through the phone tree? [22:59] <+Nuitari> not he spooginf isn't there [22:59] <+Nuitari> the number isn't much [22:59] <+Zblewski> We need a number to put on the budget [22:59] <+Nuitari> the number is 1.49$/month [23:00] <+Nuitari> we have to prepay at least 25$ in the account, which is taxable as the company is actually Montreal based [23:00] <~MikkelPaulson> nothing per minute? [23:00] <+Nuitari> 0.032$/minute [23:01] <~MikkelPaulson> not bad [23:01] <+Nuitari> also domain names [23:01] <~MikkelPaulson> maybe just lump all of the small stuff together [23:01] <+Zblewski> We can round hotline costs to $50 [23:02] <+Zblewski> that's plenty leeway [23:02] <~MikkelPaulson> they don't really need the full breakdown of every host and all of that [23:02] <+Nuitari> 10 domains, including 7 .ca [23:02] <+Nuitari> so about 135$/year [23:03] <+Zblewski> This can all be categorized [23:03] <+Zblewski> "Telecom Overhead" [23:04] <+Zblewski> Elections Canada and gov. fees is "Government Overhead" [23:04] <+Zblewski> At the bare minimum [23:05] <+Zblewski> if we report to the rest of the party [23:05] <+Zblewski> we can give them the total overhead [23:05] <+Zblewski> then worry about the rest throughout the next month [23:05] <~MikkelPaulson> yeah [23:05] <+Zblewski> Like said, I'm going to try and get media quotes [23:06] <~MikkelPaulson> and even the government issues supplementary estimates [23:06] <+Zblewski> What are you refering to [23:06] <+Zblewski> gov. costs? [23:07] <~MikkelPaulson> yeah [23:07] <~MikkelPaulson> the Alberta government does anyway, not sure federally [23:07] <+Nuitari> there is no EC fee [23:07] <+Nuitari> but there are for the non profit organization [23:08] <~MikkelPaulson> do we need an NPO now that we're a party? [23:08] <+Nuitari> the NPO is the chief agent [23:08] <+Nuitari> though we dont' have to continue that way [23:08] <~MikkelPaulson> it's probably easier to have an entity to act as agent [23:09] <~MikkelPaulson> makes it easier for us to add/remove people based on workload and availability [23:09] <~MikkelPaulson> rather than having to update Elections Canada each time [23:09] <+Nuitari> yeah [23:10] <~MikkelPaulson> hmm, anything else to add, on this subject or anything else? [23:10] <~MikkelPaulson> we can finish hammering out the budget document on the pad [23:11] <+Zblewski> one sec [23:11] <+Nuitari> I think that's it [23:11] <+Zblewski> One thing to add: What is Godzilla's favourite food? [23:12] <~MikkelPaulson> goat cheese? [23:12] <+Zblewski> SQUASH! [23:12] <~MikkelPaulson> I think we're done here [23:12] <+Zblewski> I think that's all [23:12] <~MikkelPaulson> meeting adjourned
Also see Minutes and 2011 Votelog
